2nd Amendment to the Constitution of The United States of America

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

"I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians."
- George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Ohio man goes to Batman movie with unlicensed CCW...media goes ape shit in response...

OK, back from vacation, post with pics for you later on that...

Anyway, say hi to Scott A. Smith of North Ridgeville, Ohio....


Scott made the mistake of walking into a Regal Cinemas location in Westlake, Ohio the other day for a 10pm showing of the latest Batman movie (the same one as the Colorado shootings) wearing a bag similar to the one below...
hey, I got one of those!
Even bigger a mistake was inside he had a Glock 9mm (media didn't say if it was a G17, G19, G26 or even if it was really a Glock in the first place..), extra "clips" and apparently 4 knives...all "survivalist" gear apparently.  A yet even bigger mistake however was that Regal Cinemas (like the other main cinemas AMC and Rave) has a no firearms policy posted on the door that CCW permit holders in Ohio are legally bound to obey if posted.  The biggest mistake was that Mr. Smith is apparently not licensed to carry a CCW at all, making all of the above moot as carrying in a bag and thus concealed is a no-no in the first place for him.

He made no threats or brandished his weapon in the theater, but did take a "tactically advantageous" seat in the empty theater at the back of the seats in the middle...hmmm...seems like a good place to get a good view of the movie to me.  When approached by an off duty policeman he willingly allowed his bag to be searched and offered to return the weapons to his car.  His attorney claims he was carrying for his own self defense in the wake of the Colorado shootings and subsequent fears.

Police searched his Toyota pickup truck and found a "tactical" vest.  At his home they found multiple hand guns and rifles and ammo. He is a married and has a young daughter according to police, and other than minor traffic citations has no criminal record.  His wife states she knew of his guns but was unaware of any "motive" he might of had of going to the theater.

And the media and anti-gunners are going ape shit over it....

OK, the guy fucked up, plain and simple, he was carrying not only without a license but also where he shouldn't of been even if he was licensed.  Plus he was carrying a tactical man purse bag which anybody would pick out as being a "suspicious" bag.  Dude, I got one of those that I take to the range, not the movies... Last month I posted an article about the "uniform" many of us that carry often wear and the message it can send to observers.  This guy obviously did not read it..

I don't think the guy was up to no good. Hell, if he was why didn't he draw down and open fire on the cop when he was approached if that was his intent.  I am thinking he knew he was carrying illegally but didn't think anyone would notice his bag.  He meant no harm to others but totally screwed the pooch on his approach to protecting himself here....a mistake that will cost him I am sure.  That part of Ohio close to the People Socialist Republic of Cuyahoga (Cleveland area) is not known for being especially lenient to firearm violations.  Hell, they even ticketed legal carriers with state CCW licenses for carrying concealed for a while until the state supreme court slapped the piss out of their willies over the practice.

Bad timing for us though, the anti's in the media and elsewhere are using this as gas on the fire to try and remove our 2nd Amendment rights.   On some of the news articles the comments are scathing attacks against not only this man but every legal carrier everywhere.  Here is the thing that irritates me...other than the obvious fact that he was carrying illegally...nothing else that gets brought up is illegal in any sense of the term. You CAN legally purchase a 9mm handgun and possess multiple high capacity "clips"....you CAN legally own multiple firearms (check out my safe)...you CAN legally own and drive a pickup truck (some type of a sign of a deranged survivalist mentality apparently)...you CAN own a "tactical vest"...you CAN choose to sit in a "tactically advantageous" seat in a movie theater..you CAN do all of this as long as you obey the laws as set forth by your state...something Mr. Smith did not do.  Now because of his actions these legal activities are villified for the rest of us....

So sad....

5 comments:

SpeakerTweaker said...

Plus he was carrying a tactical man purse bag which anybody would pick out as being a "suspicious" bag. Dude, I got one of those that I take to the range, not the movies...

I bought a Maxpedition Fatboy Versipack - more or less exactly what's pictured in this post - and have carried my pistol in it every single day. It also carries my keys, wallet, multi-tool, flashlight, etc.; all items that were either on my belt or in my pockets. I can't carry on my belt right now, and haven't been able to since having spinal surgery just a few months ago. So I carry the Versipack instead.

Have I made some sort of mistake?

Huey said...

No, but then again you weren't carrying it in a no gun zone right after a mass shooting that had people freaking out...in such circumstances such a bag may stand out and cause you to be subject to more than just a cursory review... lets face it, tactical nylon had just not made it into modern fashion for a reason...

As for your back...I know what you're going through, had a L4-L5 fusion in 2004 with laminectomy...not pleasant...but necessary...back was good enough to allow me to deploy 2 years later...and I could have gone much sooner too...

Armed Texan said...

Yes, his biggest and first mistake was to carry illegally. But his second and fatal mistake was to consent being searched. Had he not consented, this story would have gone one of two directions: a) the cop backs down and idiot goes home and is hopefully scared into carrying legally in the future; or b) cop searches anyway/calls in the cavalry to do a search and this guy gets off because of 4th amendment violations (though I wouldn't want to trust my freedom that a court would get this right).

SpeakerTweaker said...

Fair enough. Dude was totin' where a-totin ain't allowed. I'm inclined to agree with Armed Texan as far as consent to search. My rule of thumb is, if they have to ask, the answer is no.

I keep trying to find something to say to defend the use of the bag, but every time I do, I end up back at the fact that the moron was carrying without a license in a place where carrying's forbidden, license or no. At that point, the bag issue becomes moot.

Now because of his actions these legal activities are villified for the rest of us.... I guess that's really the point, anyway, eh?

Oh, well. I sure hope the bag doesn't cause me any issues, because it's awfully comfortable and convenient, and I sure ain't going unarmed.

HerrBGone said...

I’ve got a Maxpedition Fatboy also. The smaller standard size version, in mall ninja black. It’s well made comfortable to carry and rugged as hell. But it is only one step down from wearing a ‘shoot me first vest.’ And, yes, I have got “survivalist stuff” in it including multiple knives. There’s my Swisschamp XLT, my Kaybar Hobo, my Victorinox watch case opener (very useful at the flea market if you’re a watch geek like me…) a Victorinox sighting compass, an old Air Force signal mirror* and a bunch of other small useful items. That said, in all the years I’ve carried it I’ve never had a problem with anyone freaking out over it.

While were at it, my standard response, if asked, would be “No. I do not consent to any unwarranted search.” If they claim to have probable cause I’d follow up with “Then you should have no trouble getting a warrant.” I don’t expect that to go over well. I do expect that it should establish my emphatic lack of consent if I were to get searched anyway.

In spite of all that, unlicensed carry in a posted defenseless victim zone is just stupid.


* Actually that signal mirror got a lot of use at my old office. We had a huge parking lot complete with a shuttle bus. I had most of the drivers trained to look for the flash from my mirror if it was at all sunny out and to come pick me up right away when they saw it. Over a quarter of a mile away? No problem! It’s the brightest thing in the parking lot. Blink, blink… Got in a lot of practical experience with it that way. ;-)