2nd Amendment to the Constitution of The United States of America

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

"I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians."
- George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

Monday, January 9, 2012

Why doesn't Ruger make a pump or semi shotgun?

This is a thought continued from a WTA thread....

Ruger is probably one of my favorite manufacturers right now in terms of the amount of offerings they have that appeal to me.  Some of you may not think so highly of them for one reason or another, but this is just my opinion, again your mileage may vary.  The offer everything from deep concealment pistols (LCP), duty weapons (SR9/40, P series), O/U sporting shotguns, and AR (SR556), the premier .22 autoloader in the 10/22 and a whole bunch of other stuff...

But where is the pump or semi shotty for us?  Hey Ruger, listen up! Is the market so dominated in the segment you would target by Remington and Mossberg that you simply choose to focus elsewhere?  Are there some patents you cannot work around in the design process that is keeping you out?  What's the deal?  Stevens, H&R and NEF offer cheap pump shotguns aimed at the budget crowd, I bet you could too. You have announced a bunch of .22 handguns recently and a new .30-06 rifle but can't come up with a 12 or 20 gauge sporting/defensive shotgun to offer?

If you did this you would come really close to offering something in pretty much every category that a sporting/recreational/defensive minded shooter could use...all under one roof.  That would be impressive.

And how about a SR pistol in .45 ACP.........


5 comments:

Kevin Delaney said...

Probably because they cannot just rip off a design from Mossburg or Remmington, shine it up and put a Ruger badge on it.....Obviously those wheels are not broken. You cannot perfect perfection.

Kevin Delaney said...

Delete this comment... it is worthless. Nothing to see here.... Delete me......PLease.

Huey said...

Gonna leave it because you do being up a popular criticism of Ruger by many...that it copies designs...anyone else want to agree or counter this?

Adam said...

While they can't rip off a design, they can use a design whose patent has expired. See the Norinco HP9, New England Firearms Pardner Pump, Century International Ultra 87, etc which are all Chinese clones of the Remington 870 and imported into the US. I can't comment on their quality, never fired/held/seen one, and the internet reviews range all over the place.

I think the concern behind a "Ruger 87" pump shottie is that it a) will compete with other much more established brands (Remington 870, Mossberg 500) and b) what price point could they offer? Case in point are the Chinese 870 clones: they are very similar in price to the Remingtons, usually cheaper by $20-50. Can Ruger realistically expect to compete and make money doing this?

I'm sure there's other considerations, but the above lent themselves well to illustration.

Cheers.

Huey said...

I think they would jump in if they considered it...they jumped into the already crowded 1911 market after apparently only a year of R&D on their design so I think they would be up to it...as far as using others designs, its been said time and time again that Kel-Tec just doesn't have the legal chops to stand up to being ripped off by one side, and the other retorts that they don't have a patent to stand on two legs on the P3AT anyway...I don't know. Actually have an email into Kel-Tec right now asking their "official position" on the matter.

For a pump gun though I think anything they would come up with would have to heavily borrow from an existing design anyway...you cannot reinvent the wheel too many times...